Today, Liza and Kara cover “The Third Guy” (Season 1, Episode 16). They discuss multiple cases including the murder of Mabel Monahan and the crimes of Johnny Paul Penry. Plus, they speak to the wonderful Rick Gonzalez (Coach Carter, Old School). 
This episode was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA strike.
SOURCES:
Los Angeles Magazine
Wikipedia - Barbara Graham
The New York Times
Wikipedia - Johnny Paul Penry
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Intellectual Disability and the Death Penalty
Next week’s episode will be “Class” (Season 7, Episode 17).

      
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The Third Guy w/ Rick Gonzalez

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

TV & Film

In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza cover SVU’s “Resilience” (Season 4, Episode 10), the horrific murders committed by serial killers Fred and Rosemary West, and talk with actor Rachael Bella (The Ring).
SOURCES:
BBC
Wikipedia - Rose West
CNN
NBC News
Record-Courier
The Blade
Daily Kent Stater
MoreLaw
Akron Beacon Journal
Cleveland Scene
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Zero Abuse Project
Next week’s episode will be “Snitch” (Season 9, Episode 10). 
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Resilience w/ Rachael Bella

Today, Liza and Kara cover “Honor” (Season 2, Episode 2) and the murder of Tina Isa. Plus, they interview the prolific Aasif Mandvi.
SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Honor killing
Wikipedia - Murder of Tina Isa
Amnesty International USA
PBS
National Center for Biotechnology Information
People
KTVI
Guarding the Secrets
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
World Central Kitchen
Next week’s episode will be “Resilience” (Season 4, Episode 10).
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Honor w/ Aasif Mandvi

This week, Liza and Kara recap “Girl Dishonored” (Season 14, Episode 20), discuss a variety of college fraternity-related crimes, and interview the multi-talented musician and actor Skyler Day (Parenthood).
SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Clery Act
Wikipedia - Murder of Laura Dickinson
Wikipedia - Death of Lizzy Seeberg
The Arizona Republic
The Amherst Student
ABC News
National Catholic Reporter
Buzzfeed
Gothamist
USA Today
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Know Your IX
Next week’s episode will be “Honor” (Season 2, Episode 2).
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Girl Dishonored w/ Skyler Day

Kara and Liza break down “Twenty-Five Acts” (Season 14, Episode 3) and discuss the David Letterman blackmail scandal. 
SOURCES:
ABC News 1
ABC News 2
ABC News 3
ABC News 4
ABC News 5
Wikipedia - Stephanie Birkitt
CBS News 1
CBS News 2
CNN
Vanity Fair
The New York Times
The Washington Post
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Sexual Boundaries: How to Set Them
Next week’s episode will be “Girl Dishonored” (Season 14, Episode 20). 
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Twenty-Five Acts

Liza and Kara recap “Penetration” (Season 12, Episode 8), revisit the case of Matthew Hale and his target Judge Joan Lefkow, and interview Scorcese and SVU regular, J.C. MacKenzie. 
SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Park51
Wikipedia - Joan Lefkow
Park51.org
The New York Times
New York Post
Los Angeles Times
Chicago Tribune
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Southern Poverty Law Center
Next week’s episode will be “Twenty-Five Acts” (Season 14, Episode 3).
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The Third Guy w/ Rick Gonzalez

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