The Dorx do a quick review of the 2023 ICONS International Women's Sports Summit in Denver, among whose speakers were many former Heterodorx guests like Carole Hooven, Colin Wright, Helen Joyce, Kara Dansky, and Kim Jones; plus Suzanne Vierling, Dina McMillan, Riley Gaines, Jennifer Sey, and countless other badass women, including tall otherworldly young athletes, elder Olympic champions, lawyers, writers, policy-makers, conservatives, liberals, and spectral beings. There were even some men, like Jon Pike⁠, ⁠Ross Tucker⁠, Corinna, and at least one cute security guy. The theme was WINNING, and we're going to, just like Nina wins an argument with Corinna about whether the elite professional-managerial class constitutes an "orthodoxy." It is what's best in life!


ICONS website (currently featuring videos from the 3-day Summit): https://www.iconswomen.com/
GENDER WARS Playing Cards: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/
N.W.H.: F*ck the Security Guards: https://youtu.be/6LjW6j56ZgI
Elaine Miller at the Edinburgh Fringe: https://twitter.com/GussieGrips/status/1684893485902565378
Donate via Nina’s blog (upper right hand corner): https://blog.ninapaley.com/

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Corinna & Nina talk ICONS

Heterodox dorks Nina Paley and Corinna Cohn talk about whatever they feel like. Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support

Society & Culture

Personal Journals

History

Philosophy

Places & Travel

British-Palestinian writer and analyst John Aziz joins the Dorx to repeat his wacky, out-there thesis: Israelis are not going anywhere, Palestinians are not going anywhere, both groups have legitimate claims to the land, and both must forge a realistic future of peace. This is unfortunately controversial. Aziz emphasizes Israel is not Vietnam or Afghanistan; offers a definition of Zionism; critiques Israel’s military actions; asserts violent video games can reduce street violence; and is gratifyingly impressed to learn Nina made the animated musical short This Land Is Mine. Plus tunnels, elevated highways, October 7th, Hamas, social contagion, identical tents, antisemitism, two goats on a land bridge, and more! 


Links: 
John Aziz on Twitter: https://x.com/aziz0nomics
Andy the Antizionist Heterodorx episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-115-ask-an-anti-zionist-with-andy-the-anti-zionist/

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Palestinian Heterodoxy with John Aziz

Is the ⁠video game developer⁠, computer programmer, ⁠GamerGate⁠ veteran, and ⁠aspiring politician⁠ “based” for ⁠recent statements⁠ against antisemitism? To find out, the Dorx invited Wu for an interview that lasted 2-and-a-half hours and is therefore broken into two parts.
PART TWO:
An increasingly contentious discussion of Jesse Singal, journalistic standards, changing sex, allies, public policies that are cruel to trans people, identity, dehumanization, tolerance, prejudice, the N-word, swastika flags, fringe opinions, cognitive dissonance, cancellation, and the value of trans experience. It’s a long listen, but we think this episode gives a definitive answer to the title question.

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Is Brianna Wu Based? Part Two

Is the video game developer, computer programmer, GamerGate veteran, and aspiring politician “based” for recent statements against antisemitism? To find out, the Dorx invited Wu for an interview that lasted 2-and-a-half hours and is therefore broken into two parts.


PART ONE:
A friendly conversation about eyebrows, makeup, Zionism, antisemitism, GamerGate, WPATH standards, trans civil rights, binary vs. nonbinary, philosophical questions, the TERF-Tranny Alliance, JK Rowling, holocaust denial, India Willoughby, illiberalism, Media Matters, and the Harry S Benjamin Standards of Care.

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Is Brianna Wu Based? Part One

It would take a butcher to butch up Corinna enough to satisfy those clamoring for his detransition. Fresh from the UnSpeakeasy retreat in Louisville, the Dorx also discuss the Kohein priestly caste, street work, rimshots, shock collars, and Pronoun Ripple ice cream. Is Cori a homunculus dressed in a woman suit? How many cavities does he have? Does wearing lumberjack clothes make you a lumberjack? Can we achieve peace in the Middle East by blocking traffic in the US? Listen to this exceptionally casual episode to find out the answers, most of which are “no”.


Links:
The Lumberjack Song: https://youtu.be/FshU58nI0Ts?si=vVwQniymDpk_udP4
The UnSpeakeasy: https://www.theunspeakeasy.com/retreats
Belissa Cohen on Corinna Cohn: https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Corinna%22%20(from%3ABelissaCohen)&src;=typed_query&f;=live
Camp Trans: https://afterellen.com/setting-the-record-straight-about-michfest/
Urbana IL citizens push for city resolution for ceasefire in Palestine: https://www.news-gazette.com/news/after-70-speakers-are-heard-from-urbana-aldermen-pass-revised-gaza-resolution-receive-standing-ovation/article_ad04334c-f8fe-567f-a038-04aa53cdfbc7.html
This Land Is Mine: https://youtu.be/8tIdCsMufIY?si=SgipauO73mibAzKZ
Seder-Masochism: https://sedermasochism.com/download/
Gender and Nina’s local bike club: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2022/03/21/cycling-and-gender-intersect-in-meaningful-ways/
The Milgram Experiment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
Aaaron Kimberly, Alice Dreger, Alex Byrne, Holly Lawford-Smith debate: Is Sex Binary? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoT_ayxjXpg&ab;_channel=MITFreeSpeechAlliance


For more information about RISE on The Land for WOMEN, email Char at riseontheland2020s@gmail.com

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Butching It Up with Nina and Corinna

What happens when an inquisitive, naturally hopeful, critical-thinking civics-oriented teacher educator gets a position in an Office of Equity, Social Justice, and Multicultural Education? She gets fired for not being "the right kind of Black person", and then speaks out about it while developing better alternatives for schools. Dr. tabia lee joins the Dorx to discuss travel, authenticity, finding pride in America, critical Social Justice, racial affinity groups, “white oppressors,” DEI gangsters, infighting, bad journalism, calling in vs. calling out, emotional reasoning, pronouns, sparklefun, purple hair, and living in a dystopian science-fiction timeline. Listeners will also be treated to optimism, good humor, and multiple Hollywood-style false endings!


Links:
Tabia Lee on Twitter: https://twitter.com/11Drtlee11
DEI College Director Fired for Not Being ‘Right Kind of Black Person’: https://www.newsweek.com/dei-college-director-fired-not-being-right-kind-black-person-1813481
Free Black Thought: https://freeblackthought.com/voices/dr-tabia-lee
Do No Harm: https://donoharmmedicine.org/
Dr. t lee Educational Consultancy: http://www.drtlee.solutions/services.html
Coalition for Empowered Education: https://empowered-ed.org/about-us/
Paolo Freire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulo_Freire
ELIZA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA


For more information about RISE on The Land for WOMEN, email Char at riseontheland2020s@gmail.com

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Corinna & Nina talk ICONS

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